Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

02/25/2013 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

Audio Topic
08:01:34 AM Start
08:01:58 AM Presentation: Development on Charter and Correspondence Schools in Alaska, from the Department of Education and Early Development.
10:00:06 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Charter Schools in Alaska by Dept. TELECONFERENCED
of Education & Early Development
<Above Item Rescheduled from 2/18/13>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 25, 2013                                                                                        
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn Gattis, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  DEVELOPMENT ON CHARTER AND CORRESPONDENCE SCHOOLS                                                                
IN ALASKA~ FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND EARLY                                                                           
DEVELOPMENT.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN MCCAULEY, PhD., Director                                                                                                  
Teaching and Learning Support                                                                                                   
Department of Education and Early Development (EED)                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the development on charter                                                                     
schools and correspondence schools in Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  GATTIS called the House  Education Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order at 8:01  a.m.  Representatives LeDoux, Reinbold,                                                               
Seaton,  and   Gattis  were  present   at  the  call   to  order.                                                               
Representatives Saddler,  P. Wilson, and Drummond  arrived as the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:     Development  on  charter   and  correspondence                                                               
schools in  Alaska, from  the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
Development.                                                                                                                    
 Presentation:  Development on charter and correspondence schools                                                           
     in Alaska, from the Department of Education and Early                                                                  
                          Development.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
8:01:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
a  presentation   regarding  the   development  of   charter  and                                                               
correspondence schools in Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:02:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN MCCAULEY,  Ph.D., Director, Teaching and  Learning Support,                                                               
Department of  Education and Early Development  (EED), stated she                                                               
would provide  an overview on charter  schools and correspondence                                                               
schools  in  Alaska.   She  referred  to  a two-page  handout  in                                                               
members' packets entitled,  "Correspondence Schools" and "Charter                                                               
Schools" dated February 22, 2013.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:02:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether Correspondence  Schools and                                                               
home schools are the same.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  responded that for  the most part,  yes, especially                                                               
when  considering the  public school  option for  home schooling.                                                               
She referred  to the  handout in  the members'  packets, entitled                                                               
"Charter  Schools," dated  February  22, 2013.    She offered  to                                                               
begin her presentation with charter  schools.  The Charter School                                                               
Act of 1995 permitted charter schools  in the state.  She related                                                               
that House Bill 101 in  the 22nd Legislature increased the number                                                               
of  charter schools  permitted from  30 to  60 and  increased the                                                               
length of a charter school term from  5 to a maximum of 10 years.                                                               
Senate  Bill 235  in  the 26th  legislature  released the  limit,                                                               
which means the  number of charter schools is not  limited in the                                                               
state.   Currently, eight school  districts have  charter schools                                                               
and a total  of 27 charter schools exist  serving 5,676 students,                                                               
which  is   approximately  4  percent  of   the  overall  student                                                               
population.   Individual charter  schools enrollment  ranges from                                                               
45 to 519 students.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:04:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX inquired as  to whether charter schools are                                                               
required to enroll special needs students.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.   MCCAULEY  answered   yes;  that   the  statutes   establish                                                               
enrollment  policies and  the expectation  is that  enrollment is                                                               
done by lottery.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:05:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  asked  how many  of  the  27  charter                                                               
schools have extra space.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  was unsure  if any  of the  charter schools  have a                                                               
waitlist.  She  did not think it was uncommon  to have waitlists,                                                               
but  she wasn't  sure if  all the  charter schools  have students                                                               
waiting to be enrolled.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  asked  how many  of  the  27  charter                                                               
schools  have  intensive  needs  students  or  special  education                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  answered that some  charter schools  have intensive                                                               
students.    She did  not  recall  if  all charter  schools  have                                                               
special  needs  students.   She  reported  that 10.2  percent  of                                                               
charter schools  students are special needs  students compared to                                                               
13 percent in non-charter schools.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  asked for  a list  of charter  schools                                                               
including  location and  the number  of intensive  needs students                                                               
and special needs student enrolled.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  clarified the request  to gain an  understanding of                                                               
waitlist.   She stated  that she  understood a  Spanish immersion                                                               
school  in her  district  has a  huge  waitlist for  kindergarten                                                               
students since it is difficult  for immersion students to come in                                                               
at  the third  grade.   She requested  the numbers  of waitlisted                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:08:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  wondered if resistance to  charter schools                                                               
began in  1995 and  if so, the  source of the  "push back."   She                                                               
further  asked whether  the  charter school  system  has had  any                                                               
adverse effect or beneficial effect on regular public schools.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  disclosed  that her  current  position  was  taken                                                               
followed her  tenure as a  charter school principal at  the Birch                                                               
Tree  Charter School  at the  Matanuska-Susitna school  district.                                                               
She explained  that school districts have  experienced difficulty                                                               
with charter schools.  The charter  schools pull money out of the                                                               
public school  system's operating budget, which  goes directly to                                                               
the charter school as outlined  in statutes.  She emphasized that                                                               
charter schools  are public schools,  but the perception  is that                                                               
they operate on  a private basis.  Charter  schools have specific                                                               
missions  but they  are  public schools.   She  did  not wish  to                                                               
characterize the difficulty as being  "push back" but rather that                                                               
charter  schools  need to  figure  out  how  to allow  a  charter                                                               
schools to be  true to the autonomy provided by  in state statute                                                               
for curriculum,  budget, and textbooks.   The challenges  come to                                                               
figure  out  how the  charter  schools  are  part of  the  school                                                               
district while  still upholding state standards  for policies and                                                               
procedures,  which  creates a  tension.    Charter schools  exist                                                               
since  they  are  supposed  to do  something  differently.    The                                                               
charter schools are structured to  be innovative and have release                                                               
from some policies;  however, the charter schools  are still part                                                               
of the school district where they have been established.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX wondered whether  the testimony in 1995 was                                                               
against charter schools.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  said her experience  with charter schools  has been                                                               
in the  MSBSD.  She reported  that there are six  charter schools                                                               
in the  MSBSD and  eight in  Anchorage.   She offered  her belief                                                               
that  people  are  generally  much  more  accustomed  to  charter                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:13:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  asked   about  the  accountability  and                                                               
performance compared to the other public schools.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  answered that charter  schools are held to the same                                                               
standards  and  mandates  for accountability  under  statute  and                                                               
through  state  mandated assessments  and  testing  under the  No                                                               
Child  Left Behind  Act of  2001 (NCLB).   She  characterized the                                                               
accountability  as being  identical  to other  public schools  in                                                               
Alaska.   The  2012 Standards  Based Assessments  (SBA) data  for                                                               
charter  schools  runs about  eight  to  nine percent  higher  in                                                               
proficiency  in  reading, writing,  and  math  (three Rs),  which                                                               
begins in third grade.   She compared charter schools percentages                                                               
for  reading  to  the  non-charter  schools,  respectively,  with                                                               
reading  at  88.5 percent  versus  79.7  percent and  the  trends                                                               
continue in writing and math.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:15:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  asked whether  the non-charter  public                                                               
have sought to replicate the success.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS  reminded  the  committee  that  these  are  public                                                               
schools  and  the  Matanuska-Susitna   school  board  used  terms                                                               
neighborhood schools, charter schools, and home schools.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  asked whether  correspondence  school                                                               
fall under neighborhood schools.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS answered no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON restated her  question on success in the                                                               
three Rs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  responded that it  is challenging to draw  hard and                                                               
fast conclusions  given the number  of variables that exist.   In                                                               
her professional  experience, she has found  that charter schools                                                               
experience the  same challenges as traditional  public schools or                                                               
neighborhood  schools.     She   offered  her  belief   that  the                                                               
principals  share  the  same  conversations  about  how  to  help                                                               
special  needs students,  students  not reading  on grade  level,                                                               
students with  attendance issues,  and to  engage families.   She                                                               
suggested that  when parent  seeks out  a charter  school option,                                                               
they  have  made  a  conscious   decision.    Typically,  student                                                               
transportation  and lunches  are provided  by parents  in charter                                                               
schools  programs.     Since  the   student  enrollment   is  not                                                               
geographic, the level of parental  engagement sets the experience                                                               
apart from the neighborhood schools.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON suggested  that the committee  needs to                                                               
look  at   the  successful  schools.     Despite  the  diplomatic                                                               
response,   the  question   remains   unanswered;  however,   the                                                               
legislature, the department, and the  schools need to examine the                                                               
successes.  In fact, the  public schools offer numerous successes                                                               
and parental  involvement is a  major factor to  student success.                                                               
She wished it  was possible to foster  more parental involvement.                                                               
In  any  event,  she  maintained   the  importance  of  examining                                                               
successful schools.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:21:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  remarked that  not only  is success  important, but                                                               
also to  consider charter schools  or traditional  public schools                                                               
that fail.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY responded  that the  mechanisms  at the  department                                                               
address the  charter schools and non-charter  schools identically                                                               
in terms of adequate yearly  progress (AYP) and to identify those                                                               
schools  with  a  high  number   of  proficient  students.    The                                                               
difference is that  a charter schools typically have  a 5-10 year                                                               
contract  period   and  the  school  district   could  choose  to                                                               
discontinue operation  of a charter  schools for lack  of meeting                                                               
performance expectations.  This  highlights the difference in the                                                               
school district's  response if  the failing  school is  a charter                                                               
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:23:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD asked  whether the  funding is  the same                                                               
for   charter  schools   as  for   traditional  public   schools,                                                               
especially  if   transportation  is  not  provided   for  charter                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:24:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  referred  to  the handout  and  read  the  funding                                                               
information.   She said the  budget for  a charter school  is the                                                               
amount  generated  by students  enrolled  in  the charter  school                                                               
minus  the administrative  costs.   The administrative  costs are                                                               
established by  applying the school district's  indirect rate, as                                                               
approved by  the EED.  The  amount generated is to  be determined                                                               
in  the same  manner as  it would  be for  a student  enrolled in                                                               
another  public school  in the  school district.   She  explained                                                               
that most  school districts  interpret this  and use  the funding                                                               
formula based on the average  daily membership (ADM) and applying                                                               
the school  size cost factor,  adding the multiplier  for special                                                               
education  students,  and any  other  variables.   However,  some                                                               
school  districts provide  only  the  local contribution  whereas                                                               
some  additional local  contributions  are passed  through.   The                                                               
statutes  allow  districts  this  discretion,  as  well  as  with                                                               
transportation funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:26:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD asked  whether the  schools receive  the                                                               
identical levels of funding.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  replied that  it varies  school district  to school                                                               
district since  school districts have discretionary  decisions on                                                               
whether  to pass  on local  contributions above  the minimum  and                                                               
transportation  funding.   For example,  the  charter school  she                                                               
administered received both discretionary funding aspects.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  asked whether she knew  how many charter                                                               
schools did  not receive transportation and  food programs, which                                                               
could potentially  represent a huge savings  to school districts.                                                               
She expressed an interest in  obtaining actual data since she has                                                               
heard  charter  schools  are  more  cost  effective  with  better                                                               
outcomes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY answered  that she  did not  know which  of the  27                                                               
charter schools provide pupil transportation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:28:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked whether  traditional  neighborhood                                                               
schools can  learn from charter  schools.  He also  asked whether                                                               
traditional neighborhood schools are receptive to those lessons.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY said  there are lessons to  be learned, particularly                                                               
with respect to the need for parent engagement.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  remarked that many  legislators went back  to their                                                               
districts this past weekend and school choice is a hot topic.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY offered  that the research is clear  that the parent                                                               
engagement  is  critical  to student  success  and  will  benefit                                                               
students  no matter  which  school they  attend.   The  conscious                                                               
decision, on the  part of the parents, to bring  their child to a                                                               
specific  school represents  engagement.    Charter schools  also                                                               
have a board  called an academic policy committee  that is almost                                                               
exclusively comprised  of parents.   She emphasized  that parents                                                               
have a  role in the governance  of a charter school.   The parent                                                               
engagement piece is  at work in charter schools and  that is very                                                               
beneficial  to education.   Again,  in terms  of her  experience,                                                               
when  charter schools  are embraced  by the  school district  the                                                               
principals are learning lessons from each other.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked how often neighborhood  schools are                                                               
receptive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY hesitated to comment  on what occurs in other school                                                               
districts; however, in her experience it happened.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:32:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  related that Anchorage  has 8 of  the 27                                                               
charter schools.   She  served on the  Anchorage School  Board in                                                               
the  1990s.   She recalled  that sometimes  charter schools  were                                                               
closed  due to  funding issues.   The  Anchorage School  District                                                               
(ASD)  provides  the  local   funding,  but  not  transportation.                                                               
However, what is not provided is  a facility or the funding for a                                                               
facility, which was frustrating  since other public schools could                                                               
spend the student allocation on  education.  Other public schools                                                               
do not  pay facility costs, outside  of some utility bills.   She                                                               
said it  would be helpful to  have a history of  charter schools.                                                               
She acknowledged that many were started but closed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:34:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS offered  her observation  that charter  schools are                                                               
routinely closed based on a  lack of student performance, but the                                                               
neighborhood schools are not closed even when they are failing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  understood some  school administrative                                                               
fees  cover rent  and  transportation.   She  stated support  for                                                               
funding  parity for  neighborhood  schools  and charter  schools.                                                               
She  then  inquired as  to  whether  any charter  schools  failed                                                               
during her tenure.  She further  asked if the parents continue to                                                               
support the charter schools once their children graduate.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:36:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS requested  that the cost of  facilities be addressed                                                               
first.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY replied that the  statutes allow a charter school to                                                               
use  public   space,  if  available,   but  lacking   that  other                                                               
facilities may  be sought.   Typically,  charter schools  lease a                                                               
local existing  structure and pay  property taxes,  although some                                                               
exceptions  occur;  for example,  in  the  Kenai School  District                                                               
(KSD)  a charter  school operates  within  another public  school                                                               
facility.    In some  instances,  local  contractors construct  a                                                               
building, lease the space, and pay property taxes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  commented that one  charter school in  her district                                                               
is at  the end of an  expensive five-year lease.    She explained                                                               
that  this charter  school faces  challenges since  the buildings                                                               
are not public  facilities, the landlord may  add on enhancements                                                               
so the  building can serve  other purposes if the  charter school                                                               
fails.   Further,  in the  Matanuska-Susitna  Borough (MSB),  the                                                               
borough provided  land for a  charter school, but the  ability to                                                               
bond is  not allowed, and building  funds need to be  sought from                                                               
state allocations.   She characterized it  as a "Catch 22."   She                                                               
offered  her belief  that the  charter schools  are doing  a good                                                               
job.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:41:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX   asked   whether   the   definition   of                                                               
availability in a school district is expansive.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY answered  the statute  allows the  school districts                                                               
the  discretion to  determine availability  in  the local  school                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX  wondered   if   some  school   districts                                                               
determine space availability differently than others.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  answered that she  was unsure; however,  the school                                                               
districts  have  the ability  to  make  the determination.    She                                                               
explained  that  typically,  a  school  district  would  consider                                                               
capacity,  but  consider other  variables.    For example,  if  a                                                               
charter school is  an elementary school, but  the space available                                                               
is in a  high school, it might  not be perceived as  the best fit                                                               
by   the   school   founders,    who   are   typically   parents.                                                               
Additionally, the  geographic location may also  be a determining                                                               
factor.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:43:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS returned to  Representative Wilson's question, which                                                               
is whether parents have continued  involvement at charter schools                                                               
once their children graduate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  answered that the  parent's involvement is  tied to                                                               
student attendance.   For example,  a charter schools may  be K-6                                                               
or  K-8.   Thus the  children move  on to  middle school  or high                                                               
school  somewhere  else.    Typically,  the  parents  take  their                                                               
parental   involvement   on   to  the   school   their   children                                                               
subsequently attend.   She followed up with comments  on the data                                                               
for charter  schools that closed.   Since  1995, 6 of  12 charter                                                               
schools were  closed by the  charter schools organization.   Four                                                               
charter  schools were  closed by  school  districts, probably  in                                                               
conjunction with their local school  boards.  Two charter schools                                                               
were converted to correspondence programs, she stated.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:45:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  reported on a Homer  charter school exists                                                               
within the  local neighborhood elementary  school.   He described                                                               
the facility as  having two wings and one is  the charter schools                                                               
and the  other is the  neighborhood school.   He stated  that the                                                               
charter  school has  expanded  into a  private  facility for  k-2                                                               
classes.   He characterized this charter  school and neighborhood                                                               
school as  being very  successful.  He  referred to  the parental                                                               
involvement  commitment and  asked whether  charter schools  have                                                               
specific requirements for parental involvement.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY answered  yes; that  many charter  schools have  an                                                               
expectation  that a  certain number  of volunteer  hours will  be                                                               
performed.  She recalled the charter  school she served had a 36-                                                               
hour per year annual commitment, which is fairly common.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON highlighted that  the involvement factor is                                                               
a  major connection  to better  performance.   He indicated  some                                                               
lessons learned  from charter schools,  which is  being picked-up                                                               
by traditional  schools, is the theme  or project-based elements.                                                               
The  legislature  has moved  forward  to  promote the  theme  and                                                               
project-based schools across the  school districts.  For example,                                                               
in Saint  Marys students experience  a subsistence  lifestyle via                                                               
hunts.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY   replied,  by  definition,  charter   schools  are                                                               
supposed  to  offer an  alternative  approach  and not  duplicate                                                               
programs  offered  in neighborhood  schools  or  there isn't  any                                                               
reason to have a charter school.   However, she said she has seen                                                               
examples  of  theme-based curriculum  that  has  been brought  to                                                               
traditional schools with  great success.  For  example, the North                                                               
Slope  Borough has  a school  district  wide curriculum  approach                                                               
based on an Inupiat learning framework.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:50:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  reiterated that  when parents  have "buy                                                               
in" for a Spanish or  Japanese immersion program that the charter                                                               
schools are  popular.   She reported  that Eagle  River's charter                                                               
school,  the   Eagle  Academy  charter  school,   does  not  have                                                               
standards provided that compare to  the traditional schools.  She                                                               
suggested that  statute may need  to be altered to  provide equal                                                               
footing for  both of  these public approaches  since it  seems as                                                               
though the  charter schools  are at a  disadvantage [in  terms of                                                               
facilities and  transportation.]   She briefly described  her own                                                               
experiences.   She wondered if  a possible language  change could                                                               
be made so  that "may" provide space would be  changed to "shall"                                                               
provide space.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  stated that  the  leading  voice is  the  National                                                               
Alliance  for Public  Charter  Schools (NAPCS).    The NAPCS  has                                                               
developed a  model charter  school law  and nationally  rank each                                                               
state according  to model criteria.   She explained  that replied                                                               
that the  three important  aspects of  laws are  first, equitable                                                               
access  to  capital  funding and  facilities;  second,  equitable                                                               
operational  funding;  and  third,  multiple  authorizers,  which                                                               
allow charter schools more than  one option for who permits their                                                               
existence.  It could be  the local school district, university or                                                               
non-profit  organization.   These three  components of  the model                                                               
law provide the  highest weighting of the law.   In response to a                                                               
question she restated  the three components.   She emphasized the                                                               
importance  of  equitable  access   to  operational  funding  and                                                               
equitable access to capital funding and facilities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:53:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON asked  whether the national organization                                                               
makes a distinction between public and private charter schools.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  responded the NAPCS  relates exclusively  to public                                                               
charter schools.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:55:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether charter  schools can  expel                                                               
students for behavioral issues.   The result would be the student                                                               
would revert to the neighborhood public school.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY explained  that because charter schools  are part of                                                               
the public school district, the  same regulatory procedures would                                                               
occur for suspension or expulsion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:57:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND referred  to  the  facility funding  and                                                               
reported  on  the conditions  under  which  some charter  schools                                                               
operate.   For example, the  Northern Lights ABC  School operated                                                               
for  many years  an old  ASD building  that currently  houses the                                                               
Aquarian  Charter School.   Even  though  this building  requires                                                               
major  maintenance  and  is  substandard,  the  Aquarian  Charter                                                               
School still  rents it  from the  district; however  the Northern                                                               
Lights ABC  School does not  pay any  rent for its  new building.                                                               
Thus, there is  a need to review the school  buildings.  Further,                                                               
the  ASD offers  alternative  schools but  transportation is  not                                                               
provided to its  students or to students  attending any immersion                                                               
schools within neighborhood schools.   According to the ASD, high                                                               
school  graduation  rates  at  charter   schools  rates  are  not                                                               
necessarily better  than the  ASD's performance as  a whole.   In                                                               
fact,  the  annual dropout  rate  is  twice  [the rate]  and  the                                                               
graduation  rate  is  ten  percent   less  than  in  neighborhood                                                               
schools.  She  further suggested the committee  should review the                                                               
ASD's annual report on charter schools.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:00:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked in  instances in which  a non-profit                                                               
authorizes  a   charter  school  whether  the   school  would  be                                                               
considered a public school.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered that this  would not currently be permitted                                                               
under state  statutes since  the local school  board is  the only                                                               
authorizing   agency;  however,   the  national   charter  school                                                               
commissions   do   provide   parameters   for   authorizers   and                                                               
authorizers must  meet specific  criteria.   For example,  a non-                                                               
profit would  need to  be an officially  established 501  (c) (3)                                                               
and would need  to have capacity to adequately  support a charter                                                               
school.   She  explained  that state  charter school  commissions                                                               
would  identify  the specific  capacity.    For example,  special                                                               
education is  one of  the areas that  this scrutiny  arises, such                                                               
that a commission  would examine the charter  school's ability to                                                               
support  the education  of special  education  students since  it                                                               
represents  a  complex undertaking.    She  restated the  charter                                                               
school  commission's role  in assuring  the  charter schools  can                                                               
support special needs students.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  agreed  that charter  schools  should  be                                                               
functional.   He expressed concern that  removing the challenges,                                                               
such  as   the  parental   involvement  for   transportation  and                                                               
volunteering.     He  said  wasn't   interested  in   adding  any                                                               
additional challenges, but the  parental involvement component is                                                               
important to the success of charter schools.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY explained the start-up  of a charter school is often                                                               
the biggest  challenge and the  parental involvement  required is                                                               
beneficial    to    charter     schools,    including    facility                                                               
considerations,  transportation,   and  supplies;   however,  she                                                               
questioned  what is  meant by  equitable.   She  pointed out  the                                                               
statutory  language implies  the  intent for  equitable, but  the                                                               
nuances  of  what  is  equitable  raise questions.    No  one  is                                                               
confused about the  degree to which the BSA formula  applies to a                                                               
charter  schools or  a neighborhood  school,  but some  confusion                                                               
exists  for  other  things.     She  said  how  to  maintain  the                                                               
conditions that  result in  the buy-in a  parent feels  when they                                                               
make  the  decision to  send  their  child  to a  charter  school                                                               
without creating  unintended unequal situations.   Certainly, the                                                               
NAPCS  developed  guidelines  to help  communities  sort  through                                                               
these challenges.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:06:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether it  is easy to find teachers                                                               
and what level of teacher retention occurs at charter schools.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY responded that teacher  desire and retention depends                                                               
on a  number of variables.   She  suggested that just  as parents                                                               
select  a charter  schools, teachers  also make  decisions.   She                                                               
said  that  teachers  are  attracted to  what  appeals  to  them,                                                               
professionally  and  personally,  which   could  be  found  in  a                                                               
neighborhood school or a charter  school.  For example, a teacher                                                               
may be  interested in the  mission of  a charter school,  such as                                                               
the  Science,  Technology,  Engineering, and  Mathematics  (STEM)                                                               
model or  an arts-based  model.   The degree  to which  a charter                                                               
school  can  attract  teachers  varies school  to  school.    She                                                               
related  from  that her  experience  as  principal of  a  charter                                                               
school she found teachers were attracted to the school.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  whether  teachers  stay longer  at                                                               
charter schools.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered she did not know.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:09:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS asked  how teacher  selection occurs  at a  charter                                                               
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  responded  that as  with  any  school,  collective                                                               
bargaining  agreement  rights  exist and  transfer  opportunities                                                               
apply  as governed  by  statute.   She  explained  that unless  a                                                               
school  has  a   specific  waiver,  and  Alaska   does  not,  the                                                               
collective bargaining  process applies just  as it would  for any                                                               
school district.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:11:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.   WILSON  commented   that  teachers   in  the                                                               
traditional setting  may be frustrated.   She suggested  that the                                                               
best  teachers might  transfer to  charter  schools, which  could                                                               
create an inequity  in the school system.  She  asked whether the                                                               
statutes  or  regulations  create stumbling  blocks  for  charter                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY replied the issue  is probably that the statutes and                                                               
regulations leave  room for interpretation.   She  suggested that                                                               
the  law may  not  provide  sufficient clarity  for  some of  the                                                               
complex issues that  have arisen with the  inception and increase                                                               
in  the charter  schools.   For example,  many discussions  occur                                                               
between  the  school  districts  and  the  charter  schools  with                                                               
respect to the interpretation of statutes and regulations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON surmised that  the committee may need to                                                               
revisit  the   regulations;  however,  she  suggested   that  the                                                               
committee proceed  with caution  and not  defeat the  purpose for                                                               
creating the charter  school option.  She  asked what authorizing                                                               
options are available.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY acknowledged  that  some  states authorize  charter                                                               
schools  in   different  ways,  which  include   states  applying                                                               
directly to the  state Board of Education; a  local school board,                                                               
a  university,   a  non-profit  a  corporation;   and  a  charter                                                               
management organization (CMO).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:17:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  expressed  concern  that  the  public                                                               
schools are  put at  a disadvantage if  the involved  parents and                                                               
the best  teachers choose  to select  the charter  school option.                                                               
Further, she expressed  concern that the funding  is then removed                                                               
from the school  district to benefit a few, when  the majority of                                                               
students remain in the traditional neighborhood school setting.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY emphasized that outstanding  teachers exist in every                                                               
setting throughout the  state.  In fact, she said  there are many                                                               
variables that contribute to how  a school ultimately performs on                                                               
the measurable standards.   She stressed the  difficulty in being                                                               
an  educator,  with  the  majority  of  her  time  spent  in  the                                                               
traditional classroom.   She offered  her belief  teachers choose                                                               
to become  teachers since they  have a genuine commitment  to the                                                               
work, which is represented at  schools throughout the state.  She                                                               
suggested that  educators can best  address education  by sitting                                                               
together  to   discuss  the  challenges.     The   educators  can                                                               
facilitate  and  foster conversations  in  a  way that  makes  it                                                               
likely  that it  will happen  and  avoid a  divisive approach  to                                                               
education  or overly  competitive  feeling to  it, but  encourage                                                               
teachers to  share experiences  and learn from  each other.   She                                                               
offered  her  belief the  solution  lies  with collaboration  and                                                               
teamwork regardless of the school type.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  asked where  the major  responsibility                                                               
lies in  helping the teachers,  with the school district,  or the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY characterized  education as  a partnership  and the                                                               
local school  districts, the  state, and  educators each  play an                                                               
important  role.     For  example,  the   department  sponsors  a                                                               
curriculum alignment  institute twice  a year  and administrative                                                               
staff statewide gather  to discuss the new  state standards, with                                                               
the department  offering support and  ideas to determine  how the                                                               
standards  can   be  implemented.     Subsequently,   the  school                                                               
districts wrestle  with specific  implementation.  In  short, the                                                               
collaboration can  happen between  the department and  the school                                                               
districts,  with the  school  districts  ultimately figuring  out                                                               
what will work best for them locally.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:23:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  questioned  whether  the  challenge  to                                                               
provide lunches, transportation,  and facilities attracts parents                                                               
to charter  schools.   She offered her  belief that  parents make                                                               
these sacrifices  to obtain a  style of teaching and  passion for                                                               
excellence.   She said  she is a  passionate believer  in charter                                                               
schools.   Further,  the expectation  of parental  involvement in                                                               
charter  schools makes  a difference.   She  related she  has had                                                               
some  negative experiences  with traditional  schools, which  are                                                               
different than ones  she's experienced with charter  schools.  In                                                               
fact, in  charter schools  she's being  asked to  be part  of the                                                               
board and  make decisions.  Additionally,  the parent involvement                                                               
is totally  different from what  occurs at a  traditional school,                                                               
in which  the school might  welcome a parent bringing  in cookies                                                               
or doing some  volunteer work.  She asked a  series of questions,                                                               
including  who  decides  which  teachers  can  teach  at  charter                                                               
schools, whether the  decisions are made by  the bargaining unit,                                                               
if  waiting  lists  occur,  or  if  hiring  is  based  solely  on                                                               
seniority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  answered that the  processes for  teacher selection                                                               
at a charter school is identical  to the ones used in traditional                                                               
school.  She explained that  a vacancy is posted, teachers apply,                                                               
and the  local principal makes recommendations  on the selection.                                                               
In the  case of  a charter  school, instead  of the  principal, a                                                               
hiring  committee  often   makes  recommendations,  comprised  of                                                               
parents, and  the school  makes the  selection.   She highlighted                                                               
that  statutes require  charter schools  to operate  according to                                                               
the  negotiated agreement  and charter  schools do  not have  any                                                               
exemption.  She  reiterated that the hiring processes  are set by                                                               
negotiated   agreement  for   traditional  schools   and  charter                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS understood  there is  no preference  in the  hiring                                                               
process for charter schools.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY responded that is  correct.  She emphasized that all                                                               
teachers are members of the collective bargaining unit.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS understood  the perception  may exist  that charter                                                               
schools  have the  ability to  select any  teacher; however,  the                                                               
bargaining agreement allows the next  teacher in line to elect to                                                               
accept  the position.    For  example, the  MSBSD  has a  Spanish                                                               
immersion school and  she would anticipate the  school would only                                                               
hire Spanish speaking teachers; however, that isn't the case.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:29:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  clarified that there  are transfer  procedures that                                                               
apply and  out of  district hiring  procedures must  be followed.                                                               
She  explained  that current  teachers  have  the opportunity  to                                                               
apply for positions and most  negotiated agreements require those                                                               
teachers  be considered  first,  prior to  the  school posting  a                                                               
vacancy outside  the school district to  obtain a new hire.   She                                                               
restated the  process of how  the position postings  are handled.                                                               
She concluded that  a charter school with a  special mission does                                                               
not trump the negotiated agreement procedures.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON  asked whether seniority is  a factor or                                                               
if  in-house  hires  have  priority.   She  further  asked  about                                                               
tenure.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered that she  is not a human resources manager;                                                               
however she described the process  used.  She explained that when                                                               
a  vacancy   occurs,  tenure   isn't  the   first  consideration.                                                               
Instead, the first consideration is  to consider teachers who are                                                               
currently employed  by the school  district prior  to considering                                                               
hiring  someone out  of the  school  district.   In instances  in                                                               
which  a  layoff  situation arises,  the  school  district  could                                                               
decide  to layoff  all  teachers without  tenure.   Teachers  can                                                               
transfer  to  vacant positions  and  certain  skill sets  may  be                                                               
outlined for the vacancy, including  fluency in Spanish; however,                                                               
the  skill set  does not  trump the  hiring processes  unless the                                                               
charter school has  a specific waiver at the local  level to hire                                                               
outside of the procedure.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON surmised that numerous  teachers within                                                               
the ASD may speak Spanish.   She asked whether a Lower 48 teacher                                                               
who  has  specific  experience teaching  in  a  Spanish  speaking                                                               
country  would  not  qualify  ahead  of  someone  in  the  school                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered yes; that is correct.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:34:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  said  the traditional  local  schools  in                                                               
Homer welcome  parental involvement on  a daily basis.   In terms                                                               
of  lessons  learned,  he  wondered   whether  it's  possible  to                                                               
accentuate  and encourage  parental involvement  in every  school                                                               
since  it is  seems to  be a  strong component  for success.   He                                                               
asked  whether charter  schools  will have  an  advantage as  the                                                               
state moves to common core  or Alaska standards testing with more                                                               
complex  analysis  necessary.    He  suggested  that  the  unique                                                               
missions of charter  schools may allow them to  better meet these                                                               
assessments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  did not characterize  charter schools as  ones that                                                               
would be more  effective or less effective on  testing.  Instead,                                                               
the testing would depend on  the cohesiveness of curriculum, good                                                               
resources, textbooks  that support  teaching the  curriculum, and                                                               
strong, effective  teachers.  She  did not think  charter schools                                                               
programs  are  more  likely  or  less likely  to  attend  to  the                                                               
increase  in complexity  than traditional  public  schools.   She                                                               
concluded that there is every  potential the new standards can be                                                               
attended to effectively in both traditional and charter schools.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:37:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX further questioned  whether a school with a                                                               
need  for s  teacher with  specific  talents, such  as a  Spanish                                                               
teacher must hire a senior teacher who does not speak Spanish.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  replied that  the  variables  include whether  the                                                               
position will be hired outside  the school district, in which the                                                               
school  district   would  list  the  specific   requirements  for                                                               
Spanish,  certainly  applicants  with  specific  skills  will  be                                                               
prioritized over applicants without the  skills.  However, when a                                                               
vacancy  occurs and  an internal  senior  teacher holds  transfer                                                               
rights, the school  district must consider whether  the skill set                                                               
or transfer  rights apply.   In  fact, hiring  rights need  to be                                                               
very  clear and  followed consistently  to justify  the position.                                                               
She  restated  the  process  for  the  external  hiring  process,                                                               
including it must identify specific skill sets.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX questioned  how fluency  in Spanish  would                                                               
not  be the  top  criteria  used when  filling  a  position in  a                                                               
Spanish immersion school.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  said it might  depend on the specific  position and                                                               
whether  the position  absolutely  necessitates Spanish  language                                                               
teachers, noting it would be  hard to argue that Spanish language                                                               
isn't an essential  skill for a third-grade teacher  in a Spanish                                                               
immersion school.   However, if the position is  for a specialist                                                               
position,  such  as a  music  or  art  teacher,  it may  be  less                                                               
arguable that fluency in Spanish is a required skill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked whether  the actual language teaching                                                               
would be by a Spanish teaching professional.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:42:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND imagined that  all the Anchorage language                                                               
immersion classes  probably require  teachers with an  ability to                                                               
speak  and teach  the  language.   She  stated  that the  current                                                               
lottery system has always raised  issues about leaving children's                                                               
education to  chance drawings which  was seen as a  disservice to                                                               
children.   Additionally,  teaching styles  should be  matched to                                                               
student learning styles.   Finally, with respect  to funding, the                                                               
middle school  model is  at risk  due to a  lack of  funding, she                                                               
said.   She  offered her  belief  that schools  should be  funded                                                               
properly or ultimately damage will occur.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:45:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD asked  about  the transfer  rights of  a                                                               
bargaining union member.  She  referred to the comment that skill                                                               
set doesn't trump seniority in  the hiring process.  She affirmed                                                               
the rights of principals, students,  and parents to have the most                                                               
qualified teacher.   She  offered her  belief that  the decisions                                                               
should be based  on supply and demand rather than  a set of rigid                                                               
rules.    She  hoped  that  the charter  schools  are  not  being                                                               
hampered.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS asked  that questions be held to  allow Dr. McCauley                                                               
time to finish her presentation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:46:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  concluded the charter school  presentation, stating                                                               
that the  charter schools  must be approved  by the  state school                                                               
board  and come  to the  department having  been approved  by the                                                               
local school district and the school board.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:47:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  referred  to  page 2  of  the  handout,  entitled,                                                               
"Correspondence Schools," and offered  to quickly review the same                                                               
topic  headings.   She explained  that the  statutes require  the                                                               
department to  exercise general  supervision over  the elementary                                                               
and  secondary   correspondence  study   programs.     The  state                                                               
previously  operated a  centralized correspondence  program known                                                               
as the Alyeska Correspondence Program,  which was discontinued in                                                               
2003.   The school  districts are permitted  to have  a statewide                                                               
correspondence program, which means  the students are enrolled in                                                               
the program from outside their school districts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY stated that 26  school districts have correspondence                                                               
study  programs and  a total  of 28  correspondence schools  have                                                               
enrolled   students.     She   reported  that   13   of  the   28                                                               
correspondence schools allow for  statewide enrollment and 11,345                                                               
students are currently enrolled  in correspondence schools, which                                                               
represents 8 percent  of the total student  population in Alaska.                                                               
She reported that a small  correspondence school has two students                                                               
enrolled  with the  largest  correspondence  school having  3,635                                                               
students enrolled.  She also  reported that the special education                                                               
enrollment in correspondence schools  represents 6 percent of the                                                               
overall student population.  She  stated that approval is made by                                                               
the school district  and the EED and a statement  of assurance is                                                               
on file at  the EED to indicate the  correspondence school agrees                                                               
to  follow  the  components  in  statute  and  regulation.    For                                                               
example, one  statutory component  requires the program  must use                                                               
curriculum  materials  reviewed  by  the governing  body  of  the                                                               
school  district and  the  materials must  be  of equal  quality.                                                               
Further,  the  curriculum  materials  must be  aligned  to  state                                                               
standards and each  school must have an  individual learning plan                                                               
on file  for a student.    Funding must  be equal to  the Average                                                               
Daily Membership (ADM)  multiplied by 80 percent,  which means it                                                               
is 80 percent of the funding  for a traditional school or charter                                                               
school.   The funds can  be used to  set up funding  accounts for                                                               
parents to  use to meet  the educational needs of  their children                                                               
and limits  are established  by regulation.   She  explained that                                                               
students can  be enrolled in  two different school  districts but                                                               
the student may not count  for more than one full-time equivalent                                                               
student.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:50:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS asked  for clarity on funding and  whether a student                                                               
can be  enrolled in  both the  student's neighborhood  school and                                                               
the correspondence school.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  answered  that  they  can;  however,  there  is  a                                                               
requirement for the number of core  courses that must be taken in                                                               
that  situation.   She deferred  the department  on the  specific                                                               
funding mechanisms.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:51:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  asked  whether there  is a  difference                                                               
between a correspondence school and a home school.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered that most  correspondence programs are home                                                               
school  programs and  specifically are  the state-sponsored  home                                                               
school programs.  Parents who  wish to home school their children                                                               
can  select  a  school district  sponsored  correspondence  study                                                               
program.  In  those instances, children will  largely be educated                                                               
at  home with  appropriate checks  and balances  in place  at the                                                               
school level and direction in statute and regulation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:52:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  asked  whether  the  special  education                                                               
student  enrollment in  correspondence schools  is 6  percent and                                                               
whether  that is  average as  compared  to neighborhood  schools.                                                               
She further  asked whether funding  correspondence schools  at 80                                                               
percent of the foundation formula seemed excessive.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY responded that the  average special education across                                                               
non-correspondence  programs is  at  13 percent.   She  explained                                                               
that the funding at the 80  percent level is provided by statute,                                                               
although she did not know the history.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:53:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether  the correspondence  school                                                               
would  receive  80 percent  of  the  funding formula  amount  for                                                               
students enrolled in a correspondence school.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered  that the school district  would receive 80                                                               
percent of the  funding through the formula  funding for students                                                               
enrolled  in   correspondence  schools.    However,   the  school                                                               
district would determine  how much of that funding to  pass on to                                                               
the correspondence school.  The  statute establishes the level of                                                               
funding  the school  district  receives based  on  the number  of                                                               
students  enrolled in  correspondence  schools.   She  reiterated                                                               
that the  school district would  determine the use of  the funds.                                                               
In  further  response  to  a  question,  she  agreed  the  school                                                               
district the student is enrolled would receive the funding.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:54:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  related a  scenario  in  which a  student                                                               
resides in  Anchorage, but enrolls  in the  Galena Correspondence                                                               
program.  She asked who would receive the funds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY answered  the Galena  School  District (GSD)  would                                                               
receive the funding.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether the  parents would  receive                                                               
the funds if the student is not enrolled in any state program.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY  answered no.  She  explained that in order  for any                                                               
funds  to be  released the  child must  be enrolled  in a  public                                                               
program  within the  state.   She related  various public  school                                                               
home school  options are available  in Alaska, but  students must                                                               
be enrolled in a district  sponsored correspondence study program                                                               
within the district.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   asked  how  the   individual  education                                                               
funding accounts can be spent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY answered  that parents  can  establish an  account,                                                               
called an  allotment, which can be  used for a variety  of items,                                                               
including  curriculum  materials,  music  lessons,  and  physical                                                               
education  related activities.   She  referred to  the courses  a                                                               
student  would  normally  take in  a  traditional  public  school                                                               
setting.   Thus  the funds  could be  used to  support comparable                                                               
courses and  activities for children  to attain instruction  in a                                                               
home school program.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:56:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  recalled that  last year  the legislature                                                               
authorized  home   school  students   to  participate   in  local                                                               
competitive activities.   He asked  whether these funds  could be                                                               
used for  purposes, such as  sports activity fees  to participate                                                               
in football or other sports.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY said  she believed  so, but  she was  unsure.   She                                                               
deferred to the  EED to answer the nuances of  the allowable uses                                                               
of the allotment funds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:57:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked for  the amount  of the  home school                                                               
allotment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY answered  that amount  varies  by school  district.                                                               
She  explained  the  school district  determines  the  amount  in                                                               
collaboration with the local correspondence school.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked whether the allotment  is limited to                                                               
parents who choose to enroll  their children in a state-sponsored                                                               
correspondence school.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. MCCAULEY answered that is correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  related a  scenario in which  the parent's                                                               
home  schooling includes  religious teachings,  but the  parent's                                                               
allotment  is  not  used  for religious  teachings.    She  asked                                                               
whether that  would be allowed.   She  also asked why  that would                                                               
not violate the Blaine Amendment.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MCCAULEY  responded  that  this  is  addressed  directly  in                                                               
statute,  which does  not  preclude a  parent  from choosing  the                                                               
instruction,  but it  does preclude  the  use of  funds for  that                                                               
purpose.    She emphasized  that  it  is  clear that  funds  must                                                               
exclusively be used for non-religious purposes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  understood the  ASD charges  an activity                                                               
fee for  most of its  after school  activities.  She  offered her                                                               
belief that the correspondence or  home school students would pay                                                               
the same fees if they were to play football.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  remarked that each  school district would  make its                                                               
own decisions in terms of charging fees for its programs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:00:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 10:06 a.m.                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Charter Schools Correspondence Programs.pdf HEDC 2/25/2013 8:00:00 AM